đź“… Original date posted:2015-08-01
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> On Aug 1, 2015, at 3:46 AM, Christopher Jamthagen <cjamthagen at gmx.com> wrote:
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>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 at 12:41 PM
>> From: "Eric Lombrozo" <elombrozo at gmail.com>
>> To: "Christopher Jamthagen" <cjamthagen at gmx.com>
>> Cc: "Rusty Russell" <rusty at rustcorp.com.au>, "lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org" <lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Lightning-dev] Stealing money from a hub?
>>> On Aug 1, 2015, at 3:30 AM, Christopher Jamthagen <cjamthagen at gmx.com> wrote:
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>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 at 11:57 AM
>>>> From: "Eric Lombrozo" <elombrozo at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Rusty Russell" <rusty at rustcorp.com.au>
>>>> Cc: "Christopher Jamthagen" <cjamthagen at gmx.com>, "lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org" <lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Lightning-dev] Stealing money from a hub?
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>>>> On Jul 30, 2015, at 4:48 PM, Rusty Russell <rusty at rustcorp.com.au> wrote:
>>>> But I realized yesterday, outsourcing needs a new sighash op mode (or
>>>> normalized txids), so it's not really something to design a deployable
>>>> system around today.
>>>> Can you elaborate on this, Rusty?
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>>> We wont know the txid of the revoked commitment transaction until the cheater signs and broadcasts it, thus we cannot pre-sign the stealing transaction for the third party.
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>> Got it. I suppose it would still be possible to have the third party notify you and request a signature when it occurs so that your device doesn’t have to sit and monitor the network and do the > filtering, etc...
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> Once notified I could just sign the stealing transaction and take all the money myself.
Argh…it almost feels like there ought to be a clever way around these obstacles…
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