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This is what I talk to AI about.
Creating a natural spider silk farm is an incredibly challenging endeavor, but I'll explain the realities and why it's impractical at commercial scale:
## The Fundamental Problem
**Spiders are cannibalistic and territorial.** Unlike silkworms that can be raised peacefully together, spiders will eat each other when kept in close proximity. This makes traditional farming impossible.
## Historical Attempts
The most famous natural spider silk project was in Madagascar (2009), where a team of 80 people worked with **over one million Golden Orb spiders** over 4+ years to create an 11×4 foot textile. This required:
- Individual housing for each spider
- Daily feeding (each spider needs live insects)
- Careful silk extraction every few days
## What It Would Take for a Shirt
For a single shirt, you'd need approximately:
- **50,000-100,000 spiders** (depending on silk yield)
- Individual enclosures for each spider
- Daily capture/raising of millions of insects for food
- A full-time team to manage the operation
- 1-2 years of continuous silk collection
## Practical Challenges
**Space Requirements:** Each spider needs its own container/web space - think thousands of individual terrariums
**Feeding:** Spiders need live prey. You'd essentially need an insect farm to feed your spider farm
**Silk Collection:** Must be done gently by hand, extracting silk strands without killing the spider
**Yield:** Each spider produces tiny amounts - maybe 30-100 feet of silk every few days
**Seasonality:** Many spiders have seasonal cycles affecting silk production
## Why It's Not Viable
The time, space, and labor costs would make a shirt cost tens of thousands of dollars, even doing it yourself. The Madagascar project's cloth was valued at over $500,000 despite using essentially free labor.
## Alternative Approach
If you're interested in spider silk production, consider:
- **Silkworm breeding** with genetically modified silkworms (like Kraig Biocraft's approach)
- **Small-scale research** with a few spiders for educational purposes
- **Supporting biotech companies** developing synthetic spider silk
The dream of natural spider silk farming remains fascinating but commercially impossible due to the spiders' biological nature.
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