I don't see most people here having an objection to pay for a service that delivers on its promises - but as you point out, Twitter is not free in speech as Elon promised it would be, nor is it free in the sense of freedom in owning your data.
Rather you are paying for priority in the algorithm and that's practically it, unless you consider a tick a status symbol which it isn't now anyone with $8 can get one.
Imo it's not comparable to paid relays for a few reasons. First you can enjoy the benefits of paid relays without paying a cent, you only need to pay to write to them. On Twitter you must pay the premium or you are effectively treated like a bot. More and more of Twitter is becoming Blue only.
Second, if I don't like the policies or prices of one paid relays I can pay for a different one. Or I can make my own and choose it's public, invite only, or paid. There's a free market due to the competition.
Additionally, soon we will have the same for algorithms. Clients can create algorithm markets. Each user can choose the algorithm they want (or none at all) without being penalised by a central authority.
The real beef isn't the cost. It's that Elon promised he'd make Twitter a free market of ideas and turn it into a decentralised protocol because it was too important to be centrally controlled. He also promised Twitter would integrate crypto payments and become a multimedia platform and integrate encrypted DMs and all sorts. He hasn't delivered on either.
I'd like to point out that Nostr does pretty much all of that aside from the multimedia already. And even there, you can see it's being worked on rapidly. Twitter is owned by one of the richest people in the world and so far all they've accomplished is $8 blue ticks. Look at what Nostr has accomplished in the same time with mostly a volunteer open source community.
At least the Twitter algorithm is open source though. So he did keep one promise.
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