Everyone loves Bitcoin, but what they really mean is they love Lightning. When you mention giving the average user the ability to send and receive on-chain Bitcoin. It falls upon deaf ears. Lightning is a good feature, but then you have to tell users to either go full custodial, choose a random wallet and hope their channels don't get closed randomly, or run your own node 24/7/365. Then act like it is no big deal. If we want immediate wisdespread no bullshit adoption. If we really are bitcoiners. Then Nostr clients should give people multiple Bitcoin options. That means on-chain, lightning, and liquid.
Jay (nprofile…qzun) mentioned putting the devs on a pedestal. Holy fuck were they right on that one. I can only think of a handful of devs who are not pompus ego maniacs. They have let their popularity go to their head. Now many clients ignore their users demands, because they feel they know better. Their products now suffer from poor quality code and a shit ton of bugs.
Do not mention that we should have the ability to mute people and then that also removes the muted persons ability to follow you back. As of right now Nostr is the holy grail of social networks for online stalkers. A social network where you can't block someones ability to follow you? It is horrifying. Especially when you consider the online and physical danger that puts the average man, woman, and child in. You try to mention this as a NIP. Developers say we have talked about it, but then do not do anything about it. Truly despicable.
The guardians of the nips. New nips are not voted on publicly. There is no open consensus mechanism. You got a small council of popular devs who think they know better. Who inhibit rapid growth and adaptation for the protocol. You have to submit a nip, hope that they are gracious enough to give a shit, and then pray that their lazy asses do something about it. Which many times. They don't do anything about it, because no one can agree. So we have a half assed protocol that barely works.
Try to mention that the Nostr NIPs are on GitHub. Which is owned and opperated by one of the world's most evil corporations. That we need to become a decentralized DAO for concensus voting. Host the NIPs on another platform. Prefereably self hosted on our own git server that is powered by zap donations. The devs go ape shit. Omg we wont get any developers to contribute code, but mom EVERYONE uses GitHub, I want to be one of the cool people. Listen kids do you even practice what you preach?!? Think about what Nostr is and what we are trying to do here. Do you really think it is ok to compromise on our morals and ethics just so we can be where the sheeple are? Run our own git server, start a dao for nip voting, throw up a mirror on GitHub if you must. That basically says you want to help then here is where our main dev git server is. Call it a fucking day.
To be quite honest I believe that the protocol is almost at a fracturing point. You have seasoned well intention highly intelligent people like mleku (nprofile…8eum) Silberengel (nprofile…q06d) hodlbod (nprofile…uxgk) jb55 (nprofile…qg9j) Derek Ross (nprofile…pylh) and more who have experience and a good head on their shoulders. That are being held back and frustrated to the point where if we are not careful. We are going to be getting a hard fork sometime soon of the protocol itself. Just so we can address all of these issues. Which i have barely scratched the surface on. I am also not thinking this would be a bad thing either. Unless we get our shit together FAST.
We need to start working together to have open honest discussions. Developers need to get off of their high horses and come to the table with the common folk once again. Remember where they came from and work together to overcome our petty differences in opinion. Otherwise Nostr is not going to be around forever. It is going to stagnate even more, bleed out users, and become an anecdote in the history books of a good idea that was poorly implemented. That never got the real care and attention it deserves.
GM
#nostr
#nips
TheLegendaryMan /
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2025-03-23 11:51:15
in reply to nevent1q…rkut
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npub15pr6xlz88e2wfs2d2drdy5a56fl60t9kn9h65e07k6ecmh7tgvkqdz5uyfPublished at
2025-03-23 11:51:15Event JSON
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"content": "Everyone loves Bitcoin, but what they really mean is they love Lightning. When you mention giving the average user the ability to send and receive on-chain Bitcoin. It falls upon deaf ears. Lightning is a good feature, but then you have to tell users to either go full custodial, choose a random wallet and hope their channels don't get closed randomly, or run your own node 24/7/365. Then act like it is no big deal. If we want immediate wisdespread no bullshit adoption. If we really are bitcoiners. Then Nostr clients should give people multiple Bitcoin options. 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Their products now suffer from poor quality code and a shit ton of bugs.\n\nDo not mention that we should have the ability to mute people and then that also removes the muted persons ability to follow you back. As of right now Nostr is the holy grail of social networks for online stalkers. A social network where you can't block someones ability to follow you? It is horrifying. Especially when you consider the online and physical danger that puts the average man, woman, and child in. You try to mention this as a NIP. Developers say we have talked about it, but then do not do anything about it. Truly despicable.\n\nThe guardians of the nips. New nips are not voted on publicly. There is no open consensus mechanism. You got a small council of popular devs who think they know better. Who inhibit rapid growth and adaptation for the protocol. You have to submit a nip, hope that they are gracious enough to give a shit, and then pray that their lazy asses do something about it. Which many times. They don't do anything about it, because no one can agree. So we have a half assed protocol that barely works.\n\nTry to mention that the Nostr NIPs are on GitHub. Which is owned and opperated by one of the world's most evil corporations. That we need to become a decentralized DAO for concensus voting. Host the NIPs on another platform. Prefereably self hosted on our own git server that is powered by zap donations. The devs go ape shit. Omg we wont get any developers to contribute code, but mom EVERYONE uses GitHub, I want to be one of the cool people. Listen kids do you even practice what you preach?!? Think about what Nostr is and what we are trying to do here. Do you really think it is ok to compromise on our morals and ethics just so we can be where the sheeple are? Run our own git server, start a dao for nip voting, throw up a mirror on GitHub if you must. That basically says you want to help then here is where our main dev git server is. 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