My main concern overall is really the white washing of what security you are actually getting, and what you are not as a user. When people can’t understand easily, they may think they have privacy and live in a sane world… when…
End to end used to mean best possible outcome (assuming the keys used were a sound curve) - and sadly today it’s entirely possible for ‘end to end’ to be something else entirely.
The extent of the scam used to (and often still is,) be SSL Certificate providers attaching ‘$500,000 encryption insurance’ as part of their sold certificates. A bogus un-claimable feature used for marketing and to trick untechnical users into thinking they were highly secure and safe to use their credit card online (this is largely pre the HTTPS push).
Cloudflare are certainly innovators - but in a very centralising way. Their business moat is tied to protecting and growing their centralised empire. Just like any other company, they can be coerced as a business to do a governments bidding.
I’d almost go as far as marking websites or services that use Cloudflare as not a green lock or add a yellow spy glass - but really, browsers are too broken now, best to instead focus on their replacement.
wakoinc / Blake
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2023-07-22 16:24:04
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