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So I am back testing fractal and trying to compare how it performs with atspi and accesskit.<li>Fractal has tree of conversations on the main window. Root entries are room types such as explore, invited, favorite, low priority and similar. These items might have expanded / collapsed state. With accesskit this state is not yet reported.</li><li>When GTK4 label is focused, it's possible to use arrow keys to navigate with the caret on that label. With atspi orca is reporting caret navigation and text selection as it happens. With accesskit this is not yet working. I am not sure this might be an issue with the accesskit, newton prototype though, because with older versions of GTK4 this was not working either. Where can I put that environment variable to force atspi even with accesskit based build of GTK4? I am running this on the full gnome 46.</li><li>There is another reason why I think there might be difference with the GTK4 version I am running against atspi as compared to accesskit. Fractal has a list of room events called room history. Those are messages, files, recordings and other items found on the rooms timeline. With atspi this list is reported as room history and using up and down arrow key to navigate in this list does not cause orca to report items in this list as they are being focused. With accesskit this list is working perfectly.</li><li>With accesskit flat review is working in much more places including nautilus and fractal. With atspi orca freezes when trying to use flat review with these apps.</li><li>Flat review with accesskit feels damn snappy. Unfortunately I don't know how to prove it and make sure if it's for real or if this is a part of me being so much excited. Perhaps some control coordinates may need some refining or orca needs to be tweaked to the new way of doing things as the content now appears to be mostly presented on very long lines when using flat review. And also I think there might be some invisible content being presented as a part of flat review.</li>

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