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2024-02-11 06:26:57
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PonyPanda on Nostr: Griffith The history was good and everyone loved it. It made him seem erudite. The ...



The history was good and everyone loved it. It made him seem erudite. The most popular comment under the Tucker tweet is comparing him favorably in contrast to Joe Biden. People see him as a real head of state of a real country, in contrast to their own.

I'll be honest, I'm not really fond of a lot of the "Putin smart. Biden retard." riffs that came from this. Putin wasn't dropping the history lesson to seem smart so much as he was making the case that he has little in common ground with America, the collective west and Tucker's National Conservatism scene. I don't think it was dense simply for the sake of being dense. Like some faggoty line from one of the "nerds" in Big Bang Theory. I think that if Putin really did want to flex his big brain, he could done a much deeper dive and covered aspects of Russian history that didn't pertain to the conflict in Ukraine and Tucker's interest in him. And the interview would still be going on right now. If people think that it was just "smart" they really weren't paying attention. I don't really hold those "Wow! Putin so smart!" comments in high regard. He said what he needed to say and it had to take as long as it had to. Of course a smart person could do that. But we shouldn't think that the having the minimum communicative ability demanded of a head of state should be special.

People impressed with the volume of Putin's words and not the viewpoint he was trying to impart within in them are just retards. "Duh. I like that food because there's A LOT OF IT."

The most important part to me was his discussions of the west. His conflicting desire to be with his western brothers and his fear and loathing of its institutions and the people who run them. There are parallels with the way he talks about Russia. He clearly believes in it, in a spiritual, civilizational way. It has energy and he is confident in its future and he showed that in this interview. He also feels threatened by the vast amount of material resources arrayed against him. He is clearly happy to work with and do business with China, but he spoke about them in a more neutral manner. His love was saved for the West. If you ask me, it’s an expression of racial thinking. He wants to join the West, but has no love for the EU, or NATO, or it’s leadership, or liberalism, what would you call that? It was very powerful.

I think you have a very different interpretation of Putin's statements than I did. Though I will agree that Putin does see things from a civilizational and spiritual viewpoint.

I don't think he spoke of those in the west in anyway that would imply he felt some kinship to them. In his version of Russian history, the only part where the west was of benefit to Russia was the invitation of Rurik. He didn't talk about Peter the Great who was a huge westaboo. But he did talk about western attempts at creating a false Ukrainian identity to fracture the Russian people.

If anything, I think your assessment was completely the other way around. His tone was more neutral towards the west and more brotherly towards China. The overall theme of Putin's engagement with the west was one of him seeking pragmatic accord and the west being unable to deliver so now he's embittered by it all. But he sincerely likes China and in particular Xi Jinping. Notice how he spoke of various leaders. He said Dubya was a tough guy and not the brainlet people think he was. Same for Yeltsin. But he specifically called Xi Jinping his friend which I don't think he did for any other world leader he'd dealt with. If you look at how Putin speaks to Xi, you will see a sincere fondness and admiration for him that goes beyond professional diplomatic courtesy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4wMD5n3nls

Russia loves China. Russia thinks the west is shit. Putin sees Russia's future in the east. He brought up the rise of the BRICS and spoke of it as being inevitible. He said it was like the sun rising from the east. It can't be stopped. It can only be adapted to. The rising sun metaphor might also be an allusion to the rise of Asia. Putin sees this and he's making the sensible bet.

As for the racial component... I really didn't see it. I think he even said something like "we might look the same but we're not." He also brought up that Russia was a country that has a plurality of ethnicities and creeds. And I see that this plurality is something that the Russians I've seen online do embrace. They're not interested in the vulgar petty nationalism that westerners indulge in. That's probably why Russians love the Chudjak memes.
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