#FYI to anyone who is listing items for sale on a NIP-99 based Marketplace, such as on #Amethyst, #Shopstr, or Cyber.Space:
You absolutely WILL miss sales if you are not using a client that supports NIP-17 DMs. This is because Shopstr only notifies you of sales using this DM spec and sends you the payment as eCash tokens retrievable via said DM.
If you can't receive NIP-17 DMs, you will never know that the payment has been sent, but the buyer will still be out the sats.
There are plenty of clients that now support NIP-17 DMs. Here are a few:
#Amethyst
#Coracle
#0xChat
Why has Shopstr made this decision? Because NIP-17 DMs are quite a bit more private than NIP-04 DMs, since less metadata is leaked. Similarly, eCash as an in-between for payment is great for receiver privacy, which is not great by default on Lightning. Yet because there are still several popular clients that do not support NIP-17 (maybe waiting for something even better that JeffG (nprofile…94jr) is working on?) it creates a frustrating experience for both buyers and sellers.
Dikaios1517
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2024-12-31 19:15:27
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