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# Punt to Mystery

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>> Every worldview has to punt to mystery at some point.
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> I don't think that that's necessarily true.

I'm not sure why you would argue with this. It's merely a reframing of what you said, "I don't know". The things we don't know are mystery to us. That's all I meant by it. I'm curious to know what you thought it meant.


> Humans are inherently pattern seeking creatures, so our thinking in one area or another is always going to have the potential for flaws but this doesn't mean it's inherent to a particular worldview.

Who is this that never punts to mystery OR knows everything? Who has this worldview?

### WORLDVIEW

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>> my worldview provides the necessary foundation to know things and have certainty.

> This is only true if your worldview values a way of thinking in line with the scientific method.

I would say the opposite is true. Only a worldview that has a foundation of knowledge and certainty will value the Scientific Method. Which explains why do many early scientist were Christian and other theists. It was birthed in that world view.

> You would have to value evidence above any sort of sacred text or doctrine and abandon them when confronted with incontrovertible proof that previously held beliefs are wrong.

So by evidence, do you mean eye witnesses, archeology, and other external documentation.

>> Not all of them do.

>This is true

>> How would you describe your worldview?

>In terms of religion..

Not in terms of religion. How do you know things?

>yeah you could describe me as an atheist, nontheist, anti-theist, secular humanist, any of those would fit. More accurately and agnostic atheist, because as I had said previously agnosticism is not a halfway point, it's a claim of whether or not you have knowledge not a statement of belief. But you might find it interesting that from an atheist perspective, the word atheist is something that shouldn't really be needed. It's a bit like describing yourself is a non-stamp collector. As someone famous once said, I can't remember who, "atheism is just the sounds that rational people make when confronted with unjustifiable beliefs."

So you are an atheist?

#### IN CONCLUSION

So you believe that everything comes from nothing. Soup Theory.

Do you believe that all life was immaculately conceived? It's hard to overcome biogenesis. Isn't it?

I'm guessing that you don't know, and you punt to mystery.

So how do you know things?